Talk:Manosphere

This chat filter fucking sucks
Seriously, whoever made the slur filter made this page now basically just de-facto locked because of the extensive removals. Whoever made it needs to really change it. It's basically impossible otherwise to edit.

no bitches🥺🥺🥺
Dats it

Gigacringe, However Somewhat empathetic (but in no way justified)
While many of my left-wing comrades may (often rightfully so) see them as what they would define as the extents of male patriarchy taken to its absolute extreme. I tend to see myself as a bit more charitable regarding their movement and actually arguably do see many of them (but not all) as fellow oppressed peoples who have a lot of potential if we knew how to radicalize them properly, but who are at best extremely misguided, and whose anger is taken out on the wrong people, many of which being completely innocent. For example, I personally see them as group apart of the lumpenproletariat class, and who often have the greatest potential of all in being radicalized due to them often being the most likely to openly stand agaisnt society, the government and norms, but due to their highly isolated, decentralized and often hateful, sometimes reactionary as well as extremely toxic nature, especially against women, it is no surprise to me they are often entirely rejected outright by other mainstream left-wing groups. Which often further leads them to be radicalized by the far-right forces on the internet who often share similar community organization, jargon, and backgrounds. That being said I can see why considering their blatant sexism, often bordering on full out violence, and how many of them are very bigoted even when they pretend they are not. With that aside, regarding some of the arguments certain groups make, I actually think they have a few very good points that tend to be under looked in left-wing and progressive politics, (especially in feminist spaces) to the point where I don't think they are ENTIRELY insane, (If you guys want to know, I would argue there is some legitimacy in their arguments of women inherently having some power in certain areas of our society as well as the fact that many of them are subconsciously racist, sexist, and ableist even if they don't want to openly admit it or even will outright deny the hold said feelings, and how romance, relationships, sex, and even friendships can be viewed as a market where some people have access to more basic human intimacy than others due to reasons entirely beyond an individuals control) but they are still very wacky (And not in the good way), overgeneralizes women, and whose ideology completely ignores how awful many men both then and now often are towards each other and women and just because some of them are GBT+ Doesn't excuse the blatant reactionary views many of them have. Tldr: Basically Radfem with a penis.