UserWiki:Pantheon

History
(-->/-->-->/-->/-->/-->/-->-->-->-->)

[[File:Apolit.png]]Apolitical stage
I simply didn't care about Politics.

[[File:Auto.png]]Autocratic stage[[File:Totalitarian.png]]
I once dreamed of ruling the World as an Absolute ruler because I was fairly young and I was inspired by Supervillians in cartoon shows.

[[File:Commie.png]]"Communist" stage[[File:Soc.png]]
I've read die Känguru Chroniken, das Känguru Manifest and die Känguru Offenbarung and I literaly based all my political beliefs around it.

[[File:Nooc.png]]Platonist stage[[File:Urb.png]]
I soon abandoned "Communism" because I began to see it as unrealistic and naive (however I remained sceptical of unregulated Capitalism) and instead I began to read about history, religion and philosophy, I was amazed by the accomplisments of the Anchient Egyptians, Greeks and Romans and I was particulary interested in anchient Greek Philosophy and I chose Socrates and Platon as my favorite philosopers and my political believes at that time were very similar to those that Plato had (3 Class system, Philosopher kings, city states, eugenics etc.). I mostly abandoned my dream of World Hegemony because I began to see large Empires as unstable and and fragile.

[[File:Panarchy.png]]Panarchist stage[[File:Sep.png]]
I was researching on Wikipedia on forms of gouvernment and found one to be very interesting: Panarchy Panarchism advocates that every person has a right to secede from their old gouvernment and form an own one or join another gouvernment without leaving the country, these gouvernments would be in competition to each other in a laissez faire manner and ideally the gouvernment that manages to come out on top would be the best choice. I was very fascinated by that idea and I thought if some people in the past could found states then everyone should be able to do it. I myself largely remained by Platos ideas of gouvernance and I also thought about starting a cult at that time.

[[File:PanGerman.png]]Nationalist stage[[File:Socgeo.png]]
I began to watch the News and heard about the Civil War in Syria. I heard about how the Terrorist Organisation known as ISIS managed to occupy north-eastern Syria and north-western Iraq as well as comitting countless atrocities there. I also heard that that Terroist organisation was also commiting attacks in my home country, Germany. These Informations shaped my view on Islamists up until today and I began to get interested in my countries politics. In 2015 Europe experienced a refugee crisis with many people from the middle east, mostly Syria coming here, people that grew up in a completely different culture and society were coming to Germany and It wasn't long until conflict arose. Because of worries in the German population and some incidents between predominantly muslim Migrants and Germans Right-wing populist sentiment in Germany arose which led to the AfD (Alternative for Germany) entering the Bundestag. I myself was influenced by the News and events of that time, I also began to read about the History of Germany and reading books about politics and I also discovered the genre of Mapping and Polandball. After a while I began considering myself as a Patriot and I started indentifying myself with the German Nation more up to the point where I could be considered a Nationalist and in retrospect some of my views could be even considered Proto-Fascist since had Irredentist dreams of a Greater Germany "from the Maas to the Memel From the Etsch to the Belt" and sought to maybe even get revenge on the Western allies though a military and economic alliance with Putin's Russia and China. As for my Economics I adopted the concept of Freiwirtschaft which basically is a German version of Georgism including a currency that looses value overtime. I intended for the spending of the revenues from the land to be spents for the assistance of families.

[[File:Progconf.png]]Shift to the left[[File:Antrans.png]]
I began to realize that the European Union doesn't restricts Germany, but infact benefits it though common markets and political influence. I also realized that allying with Russia and China would cause the Baltics (and most importantly Estonia) to fall under Russian influence and possibly even Germany itself, which is why I for the most part abandoned Irredentism and Nationalism in favour of European Cooperation.

Favorite Quotes
"Well governed, poverty, ill governed, wealth a disgrace." "When making a mistake, do not be afraid to correct it." "Within the four seas, all men are brothers." "What you do not want done to yourself, do not do to others." -Confucius

"All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near." "The art of war is of vital importance to the State. It is a matter of life and death, a road either to safety or to ruin. Hence it is a subject of inquiry which can on no account be neglected." "If you know others and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know others but know yourself, you win one and lose one; if you do not know others and do not know yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle." "Treat your men as you would your own beloved sons. And they will follow you into the deepest valley." -Sun Tzu

"Nationalism is only beneficial when moderate" -Yan Xishan

"I am Cyrus, King of the World, Great King, Mighty King, King of Babylon, King of Sumer and Akkad, King of the Four Quarters, the son of Cambyses, Great King, King of Anšan, grandson of Cyrus, Great King, King of Anšan, descendant of Teispes, Great King, King of Anšan, of an eternal line of kingship, whose rule Bêl and Nabu love, whose kingship they desire for their hearts' pleasure. When I entered Babylon in a peaceful manner, I took up my lordly abode in the royal palace amidst rejoicing and happiness. Marduk, the great lord, established as his fate for me a magnanimous heart of one who loves Babylon, and I daily attended to his worship." "Diversity in counsel, unity in command." "Whenever you can, act as a liberator. Freedom, dignity, wealth — these three together constitute the greatest happiness of humanity. If you bequeath all three to your people, their love for you will never die." - Cyrus the Great

"Mankind is a single body and each nation a part of that body." -Mustafa Kemal Ataturk

"I like your Christ, but I don't like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." "Truth alone will endure, all the rest will be swept away before the tide of time. I must continue to bear testimony to truth even if I am forsaken by all. Mine may today be a voice in the wilderness, but it will be heard when all other voices are silenced, if it is the voice of Truth." "The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong." "About this time, I heard of a well known Hindu having been converted to Christianity. It was the talk of the town that, when he was baptized, he had to eat beef and drink liquor, that he also had to change his clothes, and that thenceforth he began to go about in European costume including a hat. These things got on my nerves. Surely, thought I, a religion that compelled one to eat beef, drink liquor, and change one's own clothes did not deserve the name. I also heard that the new convert had already begun abusing the religion of his ancestors, their customs and their country. All these things created in me a dislike for Christianity." "Selfishness is blind." "I regard myself as a soldier, though a soldier of peace." "Today, I rebel against orthodox Christianity, as I am convinced it has distorted the message of Jesus. He was an Asiatic whose message was delivered through many media, and when it had the backing of a Roman emperor, it became an imperialist faith as it remains to this day." "It is unwise to be too sure of one's own wisdom. It is healthy to be reminded that the strongest might weaken and the wisest might err." "I suggest that, if India is to evolve along nonviolent lines, it will have to decentralize many things. Centralization cannot be sustained and defended without adequate force . . .Centralization as a system is inconsistent with non-violent structure of society." "You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty." "All humanity is one undivided and indivisible family, and each one of us is responsible for the misdeeds of all the others. I cannot detach myself from the wickedest soul." - Mahatma Gandhi

"When Marx and following theorists wrote on capitalism they weren't writing 'capitalism and liberalism are worst things to ever happen to humanity, they are the greatest oppression of workers'. No. Marxism is supposed to be an extension of liberalism not a rejection of it, a true promotion of unity, fraternity, and freedom, and liberty, and shit. That's what Marxism and that's what leftism is about, it's about bringing the messaging of the liberal movement forward, to make it better, to make it get stronger, to make it true to its principles." -Ian Kochinsky

Positive
NARAN - Your Ideology is so based that I decided to add you here on my own accord. Although I am somewhat sceptic about class collaboration and giving the bourgeois too much representation after all they're always after their own benefit. Still very based. - He seems to be a very nice guy and he agrees with me on most issues, although we have disagreements over the Institution of Monarchy - Look above Hood856 - Similar as above, but why do you hate Federalism? - Similar to Yoda8soup, although I heard you did some questionable things... IvarsBalodis - A fellow Guild Socialist and a nice guy, he is a bit more Conservative than me and also more Nationalist though. Anglo Germanic socialist- You are an okay person but you sometimes say weird things in spaces that have nothing to do with it. Also you should get a profile or something similar. - I see, you somewhat changed your Ideology... seems to be pretty based.

Mixed leaning positive
-

ENG: A half German like me and he's very friendly too. But I am not the biggest fan of Capitalism and Economic liberalism. (And sometimes he appears to me to be the personification of r/lindnerwichsvorlagen) GER: Ein Halbdeutscher wie ich und er ist auch sehr Freundlich. Aber ich bin nicht der größte Fan von Kapitalismus und Wirtschaflicher Liberalisierung. (Und manchmal kommt er mir wie die personifizierung von r/lindnerwichsvorlagen vor)

NazBolGANG12 - Thank you for editing my page, your Ideology is okayish I guess.

- You are a fellow leftist and you also like Vaush, Dom Pedro II and we both don't like Tankies. but you also are a cringe Ultraprogressive Republican and you see religion as inhierently Reactionary and want to abolish it. May the Gods have mercy upon you. At least you don't want to persecute me for it like some other people.

Mixed
-

ENG: It's complicated... GER: Es ist kompliziert...

- Well, our relations had a pretty rough start since he's a Kemalist and denies the Kurdish people autonomy, so I spammed his comment section full with Kurdish songs... But I think we get along to a degree now.

Mixed leaning negative
Dragon Red - Unitarianism and Republicanism are highly cringe although Atatürk was kinda based you're not him... and you're a bit too Authoritarian for my liking so there's that. But I've moved you one tier higher since your Ideology has some good parts and there are people that are even worse.

- Pretty much an averange Tankie, also P*kistan is cringe and I just discovered you're Anti-Pagan... but somehow you're not the worst this wiki has to offer.

Positive/Friends
Social Distributism - You influenced my Economics greatly. Social Corporatism - Konzertierte Aktion goes brrrr. Guild Socialism - Bring back the Guilds! Market Socialism - I love Co-ops! Also a market economy can be quite efficent. Monarchism - Bring back the King!/Queen!/Emperor!/Empress! Constitutional Monarchism - One of the most successful forms of Gouvernment. Monarcho-Socialism - Workers of the World, embrace Monarchy! Interculturalism - Integrating Immigrants into our culture is BASED! But we should put effort into preserving cultures that are native to our lands though. Indigenism - Native Rights are Human Rights!

Mixed/Frenemies
Tribalism - Long live the Tribe, long live the Tribe elder and praise Sun God! On the other hand... Look I respect most of your Traditions but you should learn to use Technology, embrace the State and... Wait, what are you doing?! Don't EAT MEEEEE... Pagan Theocracy - Look, I get that you want to protect your traditional way of life but Involving religious institutions in gouvernance will make them attractive for Corruption and Manipulation, your tribal variant is a bit more based however, also stop sacrificing Humans, the Gods can feed themselves without our help. State Socialism - Sometimes it can be efficent, but often not. Which is why I prefer Cooperatives and Guilds for the means of production. Black Nationalism - BLACK LIVES MATTER! but Black Supremacy is cringe.

Negative/Enemies
National "Socialism" - You ruined my country. Stalinism - You may have beaten the guy above and industrialized the Soviet Union further but for your atrocities you still deserved to die in piss. Also Destalinisation was BASED.

Comments
- Okay, who deleted the Comments again? Ah, I can see that DragonRed was the last one who edited my page...

Can you add me-Anglo Germanic socalist
 * I just did it.

Thanks, also sorry if I do say weird things I obviously dont mean it sorry anyway. (If u are talking about the hank simp thing, it is simply because that is his ideology and I am very invested in the fictional character hank Schroeder) Oh if I could make a profile it would be a communist emblem on a German flag (I dont know)-Anglo Germanic socalist

I have a logo now
 * - Ummm, nice that you have an own logo hahaha... DDR flashbacks

Oh I didn’t mean to imply that-Anglo Germanic socalist

ddr is back your icon shouts.German socialist

Yes I tried something simple to start with I probably will have an Anglo thing added in there
 * - Okay then.

'''World Federalist but also claimed indigenist? Sorry, I can't take this in anyway seriously. Seems to me like a vaguely "progressive" neo-colonial policy'''
 * - I suggest you read "Neo-Colonialism, the last stage of Imperialism" by Kwame Nkrumah

Hey can you change your comment for me now that I have an icon
 * - Can you post your icon in my comments?


 * - Unfortunally your link doesn't seems to be working.

DragonRed How good is the conference system? How is the Swiss cantonal system?
 * - a Confederal system ultimatively depends on how well it is maintained by it's member states. Under a Confederation the constituent states are part of a Confederated state but keep souvereignity, meaning they can leave the Confederation whenever they wish to do so and Confederations often need the consent of all member states to make a decision. It basically Federalism but the member states have even more power. As for Switzerland it is rather a Federal state than a Confederal one ever since the Sonderbundkrieg (seperate alliance war).

DragonRed Why are you not love Pakistan ? 1. Pakistan was established because Indian Muslims thought they deserve special treatment, just because they are Muslim. While India was born as a secular country, Pakistan was born as an Islamic Republic and it's borders were created by someone who never has even set a foot on India 2. Pakistan started an agressive war against Jammu and Kashmir and occupies territories of it until this day 3. Pakistan commited a genocide in Bangladesh and did barely anything to make up for it. They also raped 10 times as many people as Imperial Japan in Nanjing did. 4. Pakistan funded the Taliban.
 * - Because:

very true. They always come to our country. People in my country learned what kind of person they are. Now they hate them. But they think they love us.

Also why do you love rojava? It has nothing to do with your opinion. Kurds are overrated in the west. I agree with what the Pakistanis are saying. I don't like it much, but I don't hate it either. Just stay away from my country. - Your ideology would honestly be pretty based if it wasn't for the monarchism stuff
 * - Rojava is fighting for freedom and democracy in Syria, they played a huge role in defeating ISIS and established a successful Democratic Socialist system in the middle east.
 * - Same for you but with the Republicanism stuff.

I think it was Russian general Aleksandr Dvornikov, referred to as the butcher of Syria who ended ISID. Rojova did not finish ISID. He's a lie. How will they establish a democratic socialist model between Turkey and the Syrian border? If it was, we would be the first to hear it. They are drug smugglers. Vagrant people seeking adventure. The Kurds are just like the Pakistanis.. Among the Kurds, the Taliban emerged. I say this as someone who knows the geography, infrastructure and people of that country.Even if Rojava sits down and comes to an agreement with Assad, the Kurdish peshmerga will attack this time. - You've been added to my page as requested, would appreciate if you added back :3
 * - Rojava did the Bulk of fighting in the Raqqa campaign (Raqqa was the headquarter of ISIS) and the Women protection units heavily demoralized ISIS fighters because they thought they would go to hell if they get killed by women. I also suggest you look up Democratic Confederali
 * - I did.

Do you support the division of germany and the independence of bavaria?

Let's say you have an organization in Bavaria.

Let's say an organization in Bavaria is fighting for democratic autonomy and they are killing your people. Germany suffers. Do you still support them? Or will you oppose? Another example: After world war two (during which Germany had brutally occupied Poland and commited genocide there) the Soviets and Poles commited an ethnic cleansing on the Germans in Pommerania, East Prussia, Easten Brandenburg and Silesia, even on my own family as a revenge for WWII and to move the Polish border west. While I still think that that was a horrible act I wouldn't want Germany to attempt to reconquer and recolonize those territories since that would cause even more violence and Germany benefits from European cooperation. Also most Kurds and even the PKK don't want Independence anymore, they just want Autonomy and while Bavaria already enjoys great Autonomy and is treated well in Germany, the Kurds in Turkey are not.
 * -Hmmm. Good question actually. So I wouldn't support a divided Germany and I might even support military force against those bavarian rebels. On the other hand if Germany treated bavaria as bad as Turkey treats the Kurds I would have some understanding for them, while still opposing terrorist attacks.

No one in Turkey lives a good life either. This includes Turks. Because its name is Turkey, do you think Turks live in very good conditions?

Would you oppose if bavaria decides to become independent?

Also why are you kingist? The kingdom should stay in the fairy tale books. We know well when it was a kingdom. There was a terrible life, ignorance and poverty. Thanks to the Enlightenment, society reached an advanced value. The monarchy copied it exactly. If there was no enlightenment; order would prevail. All kingdoms must disappear and become republics. Church and state should be completely separated from each other and there should be secularism. Even the Vatican should disappear.

We no longer need royalty, the authority of the church.all autonomous regions should also be independent.
 * - Sure, the Turks probably have their own problem but from what I've seen most of the people in the costal areas seem relatively well of, at least compared to the rest of the world and Turks also don't need to fear that the Turkish gouvernent displaces their villages. Yes I would oppose Bavarian Independence since I believe that the world needs unity, not division. I am a Monarchist because I believe that a Monarch can act as an unfying figure of a country better than most presidents could, since Presidential elections are often intertwined with party politics whose results will make a part of the population happy but another part will be unsatisfied, thus creating division within a country, not to mention that the presidential canditates and their campains in many countries are backed by wealthy elites, while a Monarch is connected to the land he regins over by tradition and heiritage, a ruler that is raised from birth to rule will be better than a carrier president that has only briefly studied politics and wants to earn money in the first place. The terrible life before the modern age wasn't because of the Kingdom, it was because technology wasn't delevoped as much as today, society in the middle ages was dominated by Totalitarian monotheist clerics that sought to keep the population ignorant to maintain their power. You're right that the Enlightenment generaly improved society (although the French Revolution was very brutal), however many Monarchs realized this and adopted the values of the Enlightenment themselves, that way most Monarchies of Europe became either enlightened Absolutist monarchies or Constituional ones (Britain already was a Constitutional Monarchy since the middle ages althought until 1800 the lower classes were not represented). In history there were many people that wanted to abolish the Monarchy, some went rather well like the American Revolution, the Turkish etc. but many other revolutions failed miserably and led to Millions of deaths, the collapse of countries and Totalitarian genocidal states that crushed any opposition. modern Monarchies, such as Denmark, Sweden, Norway and other European Monarchies are among the most delevoped countries on Earth, with great education and high living standarts while many Republics, like in Africa, the middle east, south America and partly Asia have an extreme amount of problems. I sympathize with Republicanism since religious institutions that are involved in higher layers of gouvernment often become corrupt, opportunistic and oppressive, although local community gouvernments should be free to adapt more relgious forms of gouverment if they wish to (in certain limits of course) but Secularism is generally way better than Theocracies and State Atheist societies.

Could you uhh, add me to the User Relations? I friended you awhile ago (also do you have a discord?)
 * - No, I once tried to create a Discord account but it didn't work. But I can add you.
 * [[File:Ecosoc.png]] Hood856: Add me?
 * - I added you.

DragonRed What are the good and bad sides of my ideology?
 * Good: Patriotism, Defensive Democracy, Interculturalism, Market Socialism, Protectionism, Maternalism, Feminism, Civil Libertarianism, Anti-Racism, Anti-Colonialism, Progressive Conservatism, Anti-Corruption, Social Georgism
 * Bad: Unitarianism, Republicanism, Particracy, Anti-Revisionism, Police Statism, Isolationism (mostly), Anti-DemCon, Post-Humanism, Marxism-Leninism, Jacobinism
 * Bad: Unitarianism, Republicanism, Particracy, Anti-Revisionism, Police Statism, Isolationism (mostly), Anti-DemCon, Post-Humanism, Marxism-Leninism, Jacobinism