Talk:Manosphere

no bitches🥺🥺🥺
Dats it

Gonna be honest though not entirely wrong about the sexual marxism stuff
While many of my left-wing comrades may (often rightfully) see them as the extents of male patriarchy taken to its absolute extreme. I tend to see myself as a bit more charitable regarding their movement and actually arguably do see many of them as fellow oppressed peoples who have a lot of potential if they were to be used, For example, I personally see them as group apart of the lumpenproletariat class, and who often have the greatest potential of all in being radicalized, but due to their highly isolated, decentralized and often hateful, sometimes reactionary as well as extremely toxic nature, especially against women, it is no surprise to me they are often entirely rejected outright by other mainstream left-wing groups. Which often further leads them to be radicalized by the far-right forces on the internet who often share similar community organization, jargon, and backgrounds. That being said I can see why considering their blatant sexism, often bordering on full out violence, and how many of them are very bigoted even when they pretend they are not. With that aside, regarding some of the arguments certain groups make, I actually think they have a few very good points that tend to be under looked in left-wing and progressive politics, (especially in feminist spaces) to the point where I don't think they are ENTIRELY insane, (If you guys want to know, I would argue there is some legitimacy in their arguments of women inherently having some power in certain areas of our society as well as the fact that many of them are subconsciously racist, sexist, and ableist even if they don't want to openly admit it or even will outright deny the hold said feelings, and how sex can be viewed as a market where some people have access to more basic human intimacy than others) but they are still very wacky, overgeneralizes women, and whose ideology completely ignores how awful many men both then and now often act towards each other and women and just because some of them are GBT+ Doesn't excuse the blatant reactionary views many of them have.