Talk:Progressivism

Such a shame most progressives simply put pink paint on everything rahter than promoting anything meaningful. The modern progressive movement needs to be more based, with things like human experimentaion and transhumanism.

Very based ideology
Matteel - This ideology will forever remain eternally based on all levels (but like seriously this page needs a massive rework it reads like a PCM strawman)
 * Okay and? As a supporter of progressivism generally it is honestly funny rather than being overtly preachy and smug about how their ideology is 100% wholesome guys I said so... Besides, even I can admit some progressives can go far and many modern progressives utilize social media and other platforms which is known to make them somewhat toxic so it is not without reason. AnAnonBoi123

WTF
I want to update the page but It won't let me? This page honestly reeks so fucking much of Straw man PCM bs

I honestly agree as well especially the relations, feels as if it was written by a right-winger and is overly biased while not being neutral or atleast not the same thing happening on other pages - Matteel

HMMM
Neoconfemboy - Those who feel the need to be "anti-woke" are just as annoying, if not more so as performatively lib types. YugoPart - True BeryAb - Exactly. 70% of the Wiki fits this, and it's painful.

Western Progressivism used to be based
Sadly, nowadays it has gone to [removed]

mmm
I suppose, no problem with memey content of course that's be expected but we should try to fix overtly biased relations. Like the one with eugenics saying "well, time to go back to supporting planned parenthood" which makes no sense because being against ableism and supporting planned parent hood are not contradictory and by the same logic I'm an ableist (despite having a mental disorder) for wanting women to have rights, better just fix what we can. - Matteel
 * Well for example, doing something like aborting kids to prevent them from living with conditions such as say extremely severe autism for example could be seen as problematic by some disability rights activists and autism rights groups that feel they are being exterminated or that kids are better dead than having autism. Despite the fact it is often seen that abortion isn't problematic because the child doesn't have rights at that time. Yet for some reason when the kid is autistic it now matters. It also seems like the only person who really cares is you, as a progressive I think trying to attack or remove memes made about us that clearly are not made ot be intentionally against progressivism as a whole should not really matter and getting into a fit because of it only would make us look bad who can't poke fun at ourselves. AnAnonBoi123

Ummm
Progressive policies are good, but some traditions are also important, and heavy drugs are illegal. But you go too far by rejecting cultural values. Sad that modern/western progressivism is corrupted by wokes. It ruins the good name of progressivism. That’s why I become more conservative in the west. -

RedDragon: their progressivism hedonism progressivism. our progressivism is rational progressivism.

A problem with progressivism
The problem with having an ideology almost solely based on "reking grampa" is that eventually (unless something bad happens) you will be old one day, and even if you try to "pioneer" in black rights right now, in the future you'd probably not be very popular, because back in 2020 you posted a "bigoted" comment on social media about how pedophiles need pscyhcological help or that cocaine harms you. The "progressivism" of today is the "bigoted reactionary fascism" of tomorrow.

I don't see this as a problem but an inevatblility -Yelling Yowie.

I don't see that as a bad thing. Creating a more just world in the future seems worth the price of my ideas seeming antiquated. - Tomjazzyy.

Meh
This is just bringe now. There are some good conservative aspects such as pro-familty, etc. I'm lean on progressive for third world country. Sorry, I support free speech. Free speech is vital to the society. Now, I'm actual Progcon thanks to how more hard prog mods lead their discord server/more platform to [removed] by implementing anti-hate speech law, and wokes share their shitty ideals -
 * - Progressivism is when no free speech.
 * - yeah Chrio no offense most progressives dont want to aboilsh free speech
 * - because I've seen some progressives always attack people because their different opinion. Example: I've seen some progressives (eg:Krab Man, etc) had attacked Arcto for not supporting and not believeing that non-binary is valid in the discord. Then, discord server admin banned people (eg:Arcto) for not supporting LGBT. I've seen a lot of progressives that are LGBT supporter. There are some progressives who are not the supporter of LGBT, such as Mao Zedong, etc. Now, not all progressives are anti-hate speech sympathizer.
 * - *sigh*no look some do but most dont okay now i got a school project to do
 * - Arcto didn't get banned lol. He lost a debate and ran away like a snowflake (ironic). Not only that, if you can strawman an entire social belief, then I can strawman conservatives to. See : conservatives are generally more prone to authoritarianism because they want to forcefully conserve old traditions. (even tho this isn't entirely false, but still strawman-y)
 * Black drone - There is a alternative to progressivism, liberalism. As a Conservative and an Rpop. I dislike any culturally left ideology but you know where I'm coming from, better a moderate innovationist rather than a woke.

actually meh
Look man, social conservatives suck. I agree, aaaaand not hating gays and minorities in general is nice. But but but that doesn't excuse (some of you) supporting identity politics, intersectionality and I'm known to despise enlightenment rationality (at least to a degree). TL:DR : Meh, could be worse, but still better than whatever conservatives have going on for themselves. Progressive conservatism on the subject of indigenous peoples is quite nice tho.

DragonRed



When I say culture, I understand folk culture as folkloric culture. I think the most important of culture is the most valuable folkloric culture. Folkloric works establish a hidden and living bridge between the people and generations. Thus, it provides assistance and solidarity in the society. Popular culture has no such vision. Popular culture is an artificial culture that emerged through the media. Folkloric culture is a natural culture that emerges among the people. The culture we need to protect is folkloric culture and artifacts. These provide assistance and solidarity among the people.

This ideology
Call yourself a "liberal" and an "innovationist", yet censor the opposition and get mad by WORDS.
 * Strawmans go brrrrrrrr.

calling some people progressives baizuos is sometimes valid but this ideology is overall based
As a socially progressive person i think we need to separate progressivism from the liberal scum